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Showing posts with label satellite - reception LRO. Show all posts
Showing posts with label satellite - reception LRO. Show all posts

Thursday, July 16, 2009

MMDS converters have arrived

About two weeks ago I decided that my setup for S-band reception needed to be upgraded seriously.

So I looked into possibilities for improvements. I found the filters necessary for the AR8200 receiver to work, and looked around to see if I could find some converters that were (relatively) easily modifiable.

I think I found it . MMDS converters cover the bands around 2150 MHz and around 2600 MHz, and it should be possible to modify the filters

TranSystem Inc makes some MMDS converters, I found some on ebay, TranSystem Model EIDC 3033 Down Converter, apparently with the following spec :

RF bands :
2150 - 2162 MHz and
2500 - 2682 MHz,
Intermediate frequencies :
116 - 128 MHz and
222 - 408 MHz

This is possible with a LO frequency of 2278 MHz. Since I want to use the converter for the 2200 - 2300 MHz band, some modifications are necessary :

RF filters - one pair at the input and one pair between the RF amplifier and the mixer - must be modified to cover 2200 - 2300 MHz

The Local Oscillator (LO) needs to be moved away from the wanted passband, preferably for a low side LO.

I took a look at the inner workings of the converter, and the RF frequency filters are stripline filters made of copper with air insulation (not microstrip etched on the PCB), so they are expected to be fairly high Q filters. For satellite S-band I think the best strategy will be to shorten the 2150 MHz strips (careful - we do not want to get too high in frequency), then disconnect the higher frequency filter (hmmm - that may not even be necessary).

The other modification concerns moving the LO down. The LO is a PLL with a frequency divider (256x) 2278MHz down to 8.898438 MHz. (Xtal in the reference oscillator).

It would be nice to have the oscillator running on a "rounded" frequency like 2000 or 2100 MHz, but that would require new Xtals to be made. Since I would like to be able to lock the LO frequency to a stable source that complicates things.

The other option will be to use a 8 MHz crystal oscillator, then lock that to a 10MHz TCXO or other standard. This will provide the converter with a LO frequency of 2048MHz. not exactly very "rounded", but still with a full MHZ, so the readout of the converted frequency should not be all too confusing (that remains to be seen). After all, a computer can do wonders in calculating the correct frequencies and control the receiver(s).

Time is a bit tight this week end, but I hope to be looking into it after all.

Wednesday, July 15, 2009

LRO without GSM

This morning I woke up early and saw the moon was out. Tested the reception of the LRO, and it was not loud but clearly there, even audible in the speaker, more details later.

Monday, July 6, 2009

S-Band Filters

I found someone selling some filters on eBay. The description said centre frequency 2125MHz and bandwidth 295MHz

However, when looking at the photo it looks like there are two different filters :
2125/295MHz and
2375/295MHz.

If that is correct I will have two very useful filtersone covering approx 1975 - 2275MHz (useable for most of the satellite S-band downlinks (2200 - 2300MHZ), and one covering 2225 - 2525MHz also useable for a good part of the Satellite S-Band downlink band , as well as the Amateur radio *and ISM) band from 2320 - 2450MHz.

Both filters are indeed usable for reception of the LRO on 2271.200MHz

If the two filters in the photo are indeed what I will receive.

When I receive the filters, I will be able to test whether my theory of poor image rejection in the receiver is correct, or if the problem is caused by IMD outside my RX system.

In any case this is going to be interesting.